There are all kinds of somewhat strange (and really strange) things about this video and about Ariel Cohen Alloro. But it is surely intriguing to watch it and no doubt would be interesting to discuss it too within our study group. (You will have to get over the two participants’ interrupting each other a lot and the self-made feel of this video). In spite of the obvious problems with presentation, I present this video for your critical attention. (If you cannot see it in your browser because of the country restriction. You can go to www.youtube.com and search for Ariel Cohen Alloro Interview Part 2).
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Shabbat Shalom
Eli I know it may be a bit late but I want to personally thank you for sharing this interview. I have spent the last couple weeks listening to and reading a lot of new resources that this interview has opened up for me. These are very fascinating times we live in and this study group has become one of the highlights of each new week for me. Thank you for your openness to explore different spiritual insights and views with us and your dedication.
Dear Joanne,
I am grateful for your comment. May we continue to think God’s thoughts after him.
Dr. Eli
Shalom,
Well I agree with Eric in many aspects. There is no differences between people like race, color, nationality, not even if is a man or woman, there is One Lord for everyone, one single faith and one believe that one given to saints.The differences between people is just what spirit they have. Yes there are different roles yet One Living God. It is important who He is for me if He is my King, and He is, than the living Tora is in the same manner actual for my life no matter what or who am I. I mean that only He is able to clean the Word from many plus but also from many minus, in the way He chose, for shore in love. I believe that Moshe bring us the Tora and Jeshua HaMassiah bring the Tora and the grace. These both the judgement and the grace has to work hand in hand in every lives. WE all need the Jews to bring, explain and live the Tora, and Christianity have to repent because of killing the older brother and stop to dis consider the Tora and stop the replacement theology on every level. People like Ariel and other hassids are the precious treasure of God for these times and the times are coming.
I feel the Gematria and other Kabbala mysticism had aspects what are not good, I say yes for explanations of semantic aspects and symbols of the Word. The Word is clear and saint.
Sorry for my bad English.
Baruch
BS”D
Shalom!
I also want to put here my experience with Rabbi Mosheh Ohana, a Cabalist Rabbi, which had the same and erroneous ideas of Ariel about the faith of Israel as viewed by Yehoshua’ and the apostles:
The principal point of discussion was and is, the “faith of the sages”. He said he was a “deptor” to the sages, because they never made mistakes… so, in this case, Ariel states a Gentile need/must or have to convert to judaism, that is, Rabinic judaism, judaism that denies Yehoshua’ to be able of considering a real observant, and excuse me you all, this is not correct.
The problem with Rabbis and traditional judaism , was and is judging or thinking in only a way/form/method to the fulfillment of commandments (the faith of the Sages), when even they (The Rabbis) can’t explain certain halachot, such as how the Biblical totaphot טוטפות became the tephilin תפילין, or why the Mezuzah has current form of a “box”.
Thus, being correct that Yehoshúa’ is Qorban Pesach, (Passover sacrifice), is also certain the circumcision we need today, is not that on the flesh, but that on the heart, as was writen:
Dt. 30:1-6
Now, what is most important? circumcision on flesh or on heart? certainly on heart without refusing that on fleshed, but NOT by an ‘ot (signal) anyone can say: “you are a second class” or “this is not for you, you aren’t a jew”.
Torah was given to all nations, because was writen:
Dt 29:10-16. Then, must I be circumcised? No! Avraham was called without any circumcision and received promises… or… ¿Only when I get circumcised is the neshamah coming back to me? NO! is when your heart is cicumcised and you became a believer.
So, commandments OF GOD, are free, not closed or reserved to the unique interpretation or view of the Rabis, pending indeed of receiving he Light of the World, our Master Yehoshúa’ hamashiach chay veqayam (living and true)
BS”D
Here are the gematriyot given in the conversation:
Grace, Chen = חן = 58 = נח Noaj, Noah
yimach = ימח = 10+40+8 = 58
shmo שמו = ; 300+40+6 = 346 His name,
Thus, the idea is like saying: “His name is Yimach” (=Chen, grace).
Messiah is the essence of all the torah
snake = Najash = נחש = 50+8+300 = 358
and משיח = Mashiaj = 40+300+10+8 = 358
Yitzjaq Mashiaj Chen = yimach
zeh chazir yachzor = this pig will return (in repentance)
ערום = 70+200+6+40 = 316 = nacked
ישו = 316 = Yeshu (a distorcioned form for Jesus)
ציפור = 90+10+80+6+200 = 386 = Bird
עשיו = 70+300+10+6 = 386 = Esau = terrenal
= 80+300+6+9 = 395 = Simply
נשמה = 50+300+40+5 = 395 = Neshamah
ע = 70 represents breath which comes from top
צמח = the renueval/growing = 90+40+8 = 138
בן אלהים Son of God = 2+50 + 1+30+5+10+40 = 138
שכוי = The rooster, cock, כישו = as Yeshu (both words has the same letters in different orders
Dear Eric we all need and have to learn and knowing God is a lifetime experience. About what you
said that Ariel told there is all right. The person of Jeshua is in the same time The son of David and
in the same time he was the adopted Son of Joseph and theSon of God Jesus who proved that He is
the HaMassiah. After His resurection also He is the Great Priest and in the same time He is our Father because He is the Eternal One. And if I will continue during all my life to tell all His Names I never will end, because so manny names He has. Blessed be He. Of course that in the same time
there is no othet God just One, the Living One. The beauty of the holy language is that there are manny simbols and we need Him to understand what He want to tell us in specific time and in specific context. He was the same God never changing with His people from the begin until the end.
Regards .
BS”D
SHalom Bezi!
Baruch Haba’!
Glory to our God!
BS”D
Most of the explanations of Ariel are beautiful, but I must say he still need to learn that there aren’t two Messiah, there are not Ben Yosef and Ben David apart, no! The Lord is one and his name is one!
These explanations are a short exposition of all that is hidden or ignored by Christians in general, and is also an example of the level of conversations between Sha’ul/Paul and Jewish scholars; indeed gematriya’ was used!!!
אור העולם = 1+6+200+5+70+6+30+40 = 358 = ‘or ha’olam = The light of this World
358 = 40+300+10+8 = משיח = Mashiaj = The Messiah
For me I appreciated the gifts of the Interviewer and Ariel. I felt that the zeal of Ariel and his attention to detail in the Scriptures was important, and I felt that the Interviewer understood these points. Yet I also saw that the Interviewer was faced with the struggle of needing the discussion to focus on a few less details so that some simple points could be made to a larger audience who do not possess the vast details of Ariel. It was simply a great discussion of two men one trying to give detail and depth and the other trying to keep things a little simpler so that the viewers could better understand. So, thanks to both men.
I have often wondered about the deeper meaning of the snake on the pole, and this interview helped me understand it better. So when we take the Messiah (Jesus) and cast him to the ground he becomes a snake that bites us. But when we lift Him up, He is our healer of everything. Now since the Torah is the written description of the Messiah, it (the Torah) has Blessings and Curses written within it. The Curses are the snake that bites and the Blessings are the lifting up of Messiah (Jesus). Casting Jesus to the ground is done by breaking Torah (lawlessness) and lifting Him up is done by Torah obedience. This is simple profound truth. So as Jews and Christians we partly obey Torah in many ways, but we break Torah by making it impossible (via our traditions of man) for others to obey Jesus (who is the Torah).
Blessed is he who comes in the name of Yehovah … the name of Messiah is the Word of God for it is written “His name is called the Word of God” … therefore blessed is Ariel and blessed is the Interviewer because they came together to explain the Word of God, who is Yeshua HaMashiach. Amen!
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G-D is Light ,even for the wild shoots of Jessie.
Having watched and listened to the discussion with the two gentlemen I did not feel it was evenly balanced out surely it should be a Christian discussing Jesus Christ with Ariel Cohen Alloro? I did not get the impression that Ariel Cohen Alloro believes Jesus is the Messiah.
I liked Ariel’s interpretation of Spirit, I would compare it to John 3:2:35. Its great to have this forum.It would be great to have a fruitful connection between Jews and Christians. Thanks to Dr Eli Eyzenberg for his effort to project co-operation between Faiths. As I am currently studying biblical Hebrew I would strongly recommend it to others to assist them in understanding Judaism it is a wonderful experience.
Geraldine Murphy
Ireland
Based on this interview, I got the impression Ariel possesses the truth of Jesus. While it may not be the Full light at this point, it is the light of Jesus nonetheless (we all have our own measure of light but as long as we believe, we are on the right track). The fact that he is an Orthodox Jew makes this all the more exciting. To me, this signals that the hand of God is moving in a dramatic way using people like him (and there are probably very few that are like him!) to “spread the Word” to” – not only to the Jewish orthodoxy, but the Christian orthodoxy as well..
This is very timely from my perspective: a very learned Orthodox Jewish Biblical scholar who recognizes (and boldly voices) the pressing need to bring believing Jews and Christians together – through God’s Word – since we all believe in salvation through Jesus.
What I found particularly interesting is that while the younger interviewer apparently was also a believer in Jesus, but he was steeped in the “legality” and “semantics” of the Word, rather than the spiritual Truths of the Word. I also sensed (but perhaps I misinterpreted) that the interviewer does, in fact, believe in Jesus – but that Jesus is only the Messiah to the Jews alone. Ariel tried his best to disabuse the interviewer of this faulty notion. In fact, it was amusing when Ariel intimated, in answer to the interviewer’s question, that if Christians want to “become” Jews, let them go ahead and do so as there is no harm in doing so – but it is of no consequence either in that this will not bring them any closer to Jesus. He was quite a lovable and insightful character!
It was clear to me that Ariel knows that the Word (both Old – the Jewish books – and New Testaments) points to Jesus as the Messiah and is meant for both believing Jew and Gentile, equally. What I loved in particular that Ariel said (which says it all) was that Jesus (“is God by Himself”) – there is no other.
Good stuff.
The author appears to be using a simple method of numerology. I used it in my classroom ,having students find what their names look like in different systems. Here A=1, but you can start A with any value. A=3 or 5 or any number. This gives us many options with any interpretations you can come up with.
The scriptures themselves give us a far more cogent argument for Jesus being the Jewish Messiah.
By the way, the video was difficult to understand because of the poor sound quality.